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2 years 5 months ago #1789 by Jeff Kreft
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That's a good question, I too have seen this and it looks like it is done on purpose because the shoulder screw is larger to accommodate the 2 stacked neckties.
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2 years 5 months ago #1793 by Vintagepos
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Are both of the necktie the same shape? I have found that they are linked to a special function.
like pressing 2 keys together and a combined indicator comes up or locking out all keys until current sale is completed
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2 years 5 months ago - 2 years 5 months ago #1795 by Jeff Kreft
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Usually the ones that are part of the special feature you are talking about are different, the tie that is on a combination key setup is usually smaller (about half the size) and are actually mounted on the flag stem of the special flag, i know this sounds confusing, you would have to see it to know what i'm talking about. If i get a chance i will post a picture of this. But the necktie on the flag stem actually catches the tails of the 2 keystems when they are pushed together. When only one key is pressed the tie moves to one side or the other and lets the keyarm slide right by it without raising the flag.
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2 years 5 months ago - 10 months 2 weeks ago #1796 by Lombard Illinois
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2 years 5 months ago - 2 years 5 months ago #1797 by rvkapp1
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Here is a picture of the ties john is referring to. I will try to explain how these work.





Starting on the far right side, there is the tie with 2 ties stacked ontop of one another, to the left there is just one. The purpose of this is:
The first arm on the far right is the $1, then no sale, then .75. By having the double stacked will not allow the $1 and the no sale to be pressed at the same time nor the no sale and .75. But because there is only one double stack between the $1 and no sale the machine will allow the $1 and the .75 to be pressed at the same time. So, in other words for every tie between 2 keyarms blocks those two from being pressed at the same time, by doubling up on the ties will just block more keyarms from being pressed. Example:
On a machine with a .05 ring up to .25 will have double ties up to the .30 arm. Then the machine will allow the .05 and .30 to be pressed at the same time, while still not allowing the .25 and .30 to be pressed at the same time.

I tried to make this as simple as possible. Topics like this should be discussed at the club meeting, if this were the case, maybe the attendance and membership would increase.
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2 years 5 months ago - 10 months 2 weeks ago #1798 by Lombard Illinois
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2 years 5 months ago #1799 by rvkapp1
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Wow, why couldn't I have just said that.

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2 years 5 months ago #1815 by Dick Witcher
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If you have a 5 cent machine (313) you need to block out all 5 cent keys when you use another 5 cent key. Ex.; press .15. at this time the front set blocks everything except the 1 of .15. this means the .05.10, ,20, .25, .30, .35, .40, .50, .60, .70, .80, .90 are blocked . They all ready give you the 15, 25, 35, 45 but the .05 & .10 could be pressed to get .15 or 5 & 50, 60, 70, 80, & 90.
The way the machine adds by add segments this can't work on the figures that have a 5 cent on the key with a dime amount. The second set blocks out anything with a 5 cent on it including the 5, when one is used. The second set ends when it gets to 50. On the larger machines where the amounts go all the way up to 95 the second set goes all the way.
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