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2 years 1 week ago #2426 by grannysauction
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hello Walter here at grannys auction, can anyone tell me about a stevensons #36 brass cash register . is the an english made national cash register? no sale up drawer will not open thanks in advance for any help

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2 years 1 week ago - 2 years 1 week ago #2427 by RittysMachine
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A Google search has some examples that indicate that Stephensons was an agent for National Cash Register in England.


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www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catal...4e-b90b-a5b400bef67f
www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catal...4c-aa08-a4ed00a5e56e

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2 years 1 week ago #2428 by grannysauction
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Thank you I just put the cash register on a movable cart and realized bigger than life on the backside of it it says National cash register and it's a number 36 thanks again for answering my ?s

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2 years 1 week ago #2430 by Dick Witcher
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Hi Dick

Interesting question. There is a short answer and a long answer. Since I am retired now I can give you both!!

The short answer is that "Stevenson Cash Register Co. of Manchester" was a second hand NCR cash register company that probably started up in the mid 1910's. They bought up old NCR cash registers, repaired them, put their name on them and resold them as refurbished.

The long answer: John Patterson set up his first foreign general sales agency in Liverpool, England one year after he took over NCR in 1884. On his second trip to Europe in 1895, he cancelled this general agency and incorporated the "National Cash Register, Limited of England" with a capital stock of £5000 and a manager in London. All of the cash registers sold by NCR London were "made in Dayton, Ohio and sold thru NCR Ltd. England." They soon had a large building on Tottenham Court Road, London. The facilities in London were used as the N.C.R. - Great Britain headquarters and included among other things, sales rooms for both new and used machines, office space, classrooms, a shipping department, and workshops for refurbishing and repairing second hand cash registers but there was no foundry. In spite of the fact that N.C.R. called their facility in London a factory from around 1905 on, no new machines were actually manufactured in Great Britain until after WWII when a factory was opened in Dundee. In 1903, NCR established it's first foreign factory in Berlin where there was a foundry. In Berlin they produced the brass parts and assembled them to the imported working parts of the cash register from Dayton, Ohio. Import duties for cash register PARTS was a lot cheaper than the duties on imported cash registers. Berlin was the most centralized location in Continental Europe and Berlin had a strong NCR leadership and organization.

Back to England. One theory is that the Canadian NCR factory was used to make some of the machines for Great Britain because their would be no import duties. Canada was part of the British Empire! I would love to find some documentation about this however.

Now back to Stevenson. I don't know if Stevenson started in Manchester as an official local NCR agency selling new machines thru London but during the first World War there was a great demand for cash registers and new ones could not be produced due to war shortages. The market for 2nd hand machines was great so Stevenson moved in on the second hand market. He continued selling refurbished NCR machines for quite a few years after the war as well. When NCR London started selling their new machines after the war, Stevenson continued selling the old brass machines with his name on it. Judging by the number of machines on the antique scene with "Stevenson Cash Register Co." on them, they did a very good and lasting business. Stevenson and other second hand dealers are also the reason one finds so many old brass machines with horrible brass patches over the missing printers and coin wheels! NCR - London would not have put such shoddy work back on the market.

I hope this answers your question. Most people in England don't realize that no brass machines were ever made there!

Did you get the information I sent you about the NCR lever machines from Berlin?

Take care
Neal


On 07/09/16 23:04, Richard Witcher wrote:

Hi Neal,
I don't think I ever asked you about
Stevenson cash register co.
Manchester
10-12 South King St
Was this a company that National started to get around the government of England?
I have seen pictures of a lot of machines with Stevenson in the art work of a model "79" & others. The ones I saw had a few minor changes but sure looked like a 79.
I know that National couldn't get into Canada so they sent a VP up there who made a deal with the Hamilton Brass works to built Nationals with their name on them. I have 2, one is a fine scroll 3 & the other is a FDL 8?
Dick
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