My basic cleaning procedures

3 years 1 month ago - 3 years 1 month ago #996 by TWNHSTNUT


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    When I look for machines I look for the most awful looking, non functioning machines. They are usually the only ones I can afford. These machines are usually corroded or have been painted with the thickest coats of silver or gold oil based paints I have ever seen. My system is several steps and some of them may seem harsh but I have had no noticeable loss of detail in my procedure so I am sticking with it. I am not saying this is the best or only way, but it works for me so here it goes

    1 case disassembled into pieces
    2 heavy duty paint remover applied
    3 paint remover washed off with dish detergent, water and a nylon brush
    4 repeat if necessary
    5 parts soaked in a plastic tub filled with toilet bowl cleaner (this is great for green corrosion removal)
    6 parts washed with soap and water like above except with a very soft bristle wire hand brush
    7 a wash and hand wire brush scrub with brasso
    8 one last soap and water wash
    9 a soft wire wheel brushing with a drill
    9b if flat areas have scratches or you need to get areas of nickel off use a random orbit sander with 220 grit
    10 polish out all areas with compound and buffing wheels
    11 coat with something to keep brass from turning. I usually used minwax spray lacquer but now that I am polishing to a higher level I find it dulls too much. I would love some suggestions.

    all this leaves the brass very clean and I have no scratches show from the wire brush or sander. When I first started I used to do the whole machine with a tiny soft wire wheel on a dremel tool. I can not express how long this took. The soft bristle (4" not brass) wire wheel on the drill gets into all the hard to reach places and does nor remove details from the brass. If you don't believe me try it on a test piece you dont care about. I have another post showing a buried top sign I just did using the exact method above. Well that's my technique.
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    3 years 1 month ago #1006 by Vic160


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    I use Nikolas spray lacquer. It's for musical instruments mostly. Keep up the great work John!

    Bob

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    3 years 1 month ago #1007 by TWNHSTNUT


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    Thanks,

    I got another recommendation too so what I am going to do is a 3 way test of the minwax against the other two products and i will report back to the site for those interested in such things

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    3 years 1 month ago #1030 by Dick Witcher


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    I have used Nikolas for many years & I like it. It is very forgiving if you put it on too thick. Just spay on a dry day.
    Dick

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    3 years 1 month ago - 3 years 1 month ago #1031 by TWNHSTNUT


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    Just got two cans today from Mcmaster-carr. I am working on some 313 parts to practice buffing techniques and I will try the lacquer on them. Can any of you experts tell me what level of compound you work down to? I am using grey to cut but I'll be damned if it doesnt do a fairly nice polishing job too. If I were to go one more level I am thinking white or green. Any opinions?

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    3 years 1 month ago #1041 by Dick Witcher


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    If the paint is thick, I use paint remover & wash with lacquer thinner.
    I glass bead my cabinets.
    I use a brass wire wheel sparingly.
    I sand the edges with 400 grit sanding disk.
    I use Tripoli (orange grease) with a canvas vented wheel. Polish in all 4 directions.
    Wash with lacquer thinner while it is still hot.
    Repeat as needed.
    Polish with white rouge using a sown wheel.
    wash
    polish with red rouge using a loose cotton wheel.
    wash
    hand buff (never touch the cabinet with your hands) with soft tee shirts.
    Hang & spray with Nickolas clear lacquer 3 coats. My polisher uses something from something from Sherman Williams. I have used regular car clear coat. If it is not perfect, the clear won't hide it.
    Everyone has their own way. I think I make it too hard sometimes and it takes me forever to do one
    Buffing materials at Eastwood.com
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    3 years 1 month ago #1045 by TWNHSTNUT


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    Dick Witcher wrote: . I think I make it too hard sometimes and it takes me forever to do one


    Yeah, but thats why your machines come out so beautiful. I will aim to do something in between what i am doing now and what you are doing and see where that gets me.

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    3 years 1 month ago #1047 by Vic160


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    The many steps are one thing, I hate the washing with lacquer thinner part, seems it's the only thing to get the compounds off.

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    3 years 1 month ago #1052 by TWNHSTNUT


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    Vic160 wrote: The many steps are one thing, I hate the washing with lacquer thinner part, seems it's the only thing to get the compounds off.


    I used to hate getting the compound out too. Especially in all the pinholes in the dolphin cases. I tried everything, acetone, lacquer thinner, soap and water, you name it. It was only when i called a very large buffing company looking for a water based compound that i was given the secret. The guy asked why I wanted water based compound and when i told him about cleanup he said that the water based stuff was terrible and that all I needed to do was use a toothbrush and ammonia.

    I could not believe it. The compound came right off and with a little water wash and a nice drying the piece was perfectly clean with minimum effort. the only thing is you need a well ventilated area. Why don't you give ammonia a try and see what you think.

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    3 years 1 month ago #1054 by Vic160


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    Hey thanks! I will try that! It's way cheaper than lacquer thinner!

    Thanks!
    Bob
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